Worse The More You Sleep?
Posted 22 July 2013 - 08:03 AM
Posted 22 July 2013 - 08:29 AM
Just curious about when that happens for you.
When I stay on my schedule, I feel well. When I sleep longer, it is generally because I really need it.
I make it through each work day without a nap. I can make it through the evening ok but then I am spent after 8 pm.
On the weekends, I will sleep 1-2 hours longer. I will then take a nap on the weekends. So, if I look at it, I need a nap on the days I sleep longer.
However, I have to let myself rest up on the weekends to make up for the previous week and to prepare for the upcoming week.
When I give in to sleep and let myself rest up on the weekends, I get less accomplished than during the week.
Being passive brings on sleepiness. Being active helps me keep sleepiness at bay. I cannot manage more than 4-5 "active days" in a row. And I need at least 2 days to recover from those 4-5 days.
If we have a busy weekend planned, I try to schedule a Friday or Monday off so I do not wear myself out.
So, I am curious for you if you see a pattern.
I think that for someone with N, 4-6 hours of sleep is just not enough. Our sleep is so inefficient that 7-8 hours is really the bare minimum. Your body/brain may be trying to catch up on the 7-9 hour days to make up for the 4-6 hour days.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:00 AM
Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:10 AM
When you get up early for something important, are you excited (pos or neg) with a little adrenaline flowing.
I am curious if you are more "actively" engaged when you have a new commitment that requires getting up early. The downside of routine for me is that I can slump into a more "passive" feel. Something new helps me be more alert.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:48 AM
Posted 22 July 2013 - 10:23 AM
I have noticed this effect as well. If I sleep enough to get rid of my EDS, I have terrible headaches and brain fog. If I sleep less, I'm really tired and usually pretty depressed, but the headaches and brain fog are gone. I'm still groggy, but it's a normal type of groggy, not the my mind is melted into liquid brain putty type of brain fog.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 10:58 AM
Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:01 AM
I have a theory that it's not just absence of SWS that causes N symptoms. I think too much REM, in and of itself, is harmful as well. It has been associated with mental disorder actually.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:10 AM
For me, there seems to have been a certain energy that comes in that time between exhaustion and a complete crash. I especially noticed this when our twins were infants and our nights were sooo interrupted.
It is like watching a top spinning and spinning. It looks like it is standing straight and bumping around and then it just falls over. Now that I am no longer spinning to stand up, and no longer falling over (literally and figuratively), I have to learn to just stand straight up and stop bouncing around. I am starting to get accustomed to this and I prefer it. I am not relying on frantic energy to keep me moving.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:23 AM
So if i don't sleep as long i feel better, but i imagine will end up crashing. I'm wondering if sleeping in two batches might work. Say 6 at night then another two in the afternoon.
Sometimes I get hyperactive and very silly, I'm bouncing around the place like I have adhd. But I know it's a bad sign, it means I'm going to have have a terrible crash.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 06:35 PM
On the weekends I sleep off and on for 3/4 more hours and I am defiantly more tired all day. Naps are terrible for me but I still always lay down, because I want to sleep so I lay there till I do and when I do its like 10/15 mins. I'm grouchy when I get up for a while, but then I get a second wind.
I also get silly and hyper but only when I feel over tired, meaning when I get to the point that I'm so tired but can't sleep. Normally I get grouchy when a sleep episode hits and then the brain fog sets in. I really really hate the brain fog it always seems to hit when I'm at work or having a serious conversation.