Rem Behaviour Disorder As Early N Symptom?
Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:41 PM
I know as a kid I sleepwalked and sleeptalked. My mother and I used to have grand old chats in the middle of the night that I never had any recollection of afterwards. I'm not sure about acting out my dreams as a small child, but I know I do now on occasion. I talk through my dreams too.
I was wondering what all you lovelies had to say about this. Any ideas? Connections you can make? Experiences you'd like to share?
Have I forgotten any pertinent parasomnias?
Posted 13 June 2009 - 11:38 PM
Interesting poll though... great idea!
Posted 14 June 2009 - 12:24 AM
I never really had any parasomnias or REM behaviour, but sometimes someone will come into my room and try and wake me up, and I never fully wake up....sometimes I'll have a conversation with them, which I'll have no recollection of, and then go back to sleep. They'll think I was awake, but there's no way I was really awake. That's not exactly "sleep talking" though. It used to happen much more often a few years ago than it does now.
Posted 14 June 2009 - 01:03 AM
I did sleepwalk as a kid, in fact I can remember my parents bringing up a particular incident where I had apparently walked into the living room while they were watching television and asked: "did you get the boat ready?"
Any my parents could tell I was sleepwalking and so they said: "yes, it is, now go back to bed."
And I said: "okay, but are you sure it's ready b/c it needs to be ready."
And they said: "jenji, it's ready we promise, now go back to bed, everything is okay."
And with that mom said she walked me back to bed and I got in and went back to "sleep."
Here's the best part: Um, yeah....sooooo we didn't have a boat. lol
Anyway, I had quite a few sleepwalking issues as a youngster and the occasional SP/HH, one in particular I can remember from inside my crib, so clearly I was just a toddler at that point, however for the most part my major problem was with night terrors that I can recall. They were horrific and I wouldn't wish them on any child, let alone adult. But oddly enough, the night terrors were eventually pretty much replaced with mainly SP/HH as I got older, quite regularly from 11 years or so on and since then they have continued.
And isn't it unreal that I didn't learn until last year that my SP/HH were in fact a sx of N. All those years I spent thinking I was insane; all those years where I didn't breathe a word about the "people in my room" at night. All those years that the shrinks I confided in told me that those "people in my room" were my stepfather abusing me. And it wasn't. It was them; the trio; the trio I highlighted in one of my films that many of you have so kindly viewed.
And finally, there are many individuals who would insist that I would strike out whilst sleeping: kicking, punching at those who slept beside me. The cat finally wised up and doesn't sleep with me anymore; my significant others throughout the years weathered it quite well considering some had received a charlie horse or two. I think this was REM Behavior Disorder, but that got much better once I got into my 30's.
Odd how things progress or regress isn't it? Interesting stuff.
Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:41 AM
'Seeing the enemy: dead skin and blackened eyes,
a pack of guys from the afterlife coming back in time'
thats why no one would ever share a bed with me when i was younger lol.
ive always been a restless sleeper and i never stay still at night. i alwyas wake up in a completely differnt position 2 when i go to bed and people alwyas comment on the fact that i dont ever stay still
Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:56 PM
Posted 14 June 2009 - 10:04 PM
A night terror is when you don't completely wake up from NREM sleep in a confused and terrified state. It's nearly impossible to wake someone from a night terror. They usually go back to sleep themselves. Night terrors usually cause things like screaming, moaning or other scared noises. They can be quite frightening for others but the person rarely remembers.
I had a friend in middle school who had night terrors. On a school trip four of us were in a hotel room and in the middle of the night J calmly got up, walked to the middle of the room and screamed bloody murder. Scared the flippin' daylights out of us. When she was done she calmly went back to bed like nothing had ever happened. Was asleep the whole time. The three of us girls in the room had been warned beforehand but the teachers were really hard to pacify. J was dead to the world asleep by the time they got to our room.
And yes moving in your sleep is perfectly normal. Kicking your significant other in the groin because you're being held captive in the congo and you're not fond of your prison guard counts as abnormal "REM behaviour". My (former) s/o got over it eventually.
Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:07 AM
I don't know when it stopped, I think around when I was five.
I eventually started having sleep paralysis and hallucinations. I've had two out of body experiences, and one of which was extremely painful. I don't know if they are really out of body exps or if it has to do with narcolepsy. One was when I was about 12, the other I was 19. I'm 23 now.
I have very vidid dreams now, some of which can be terrifying and hallucinogenic. I often have dreams so real that I think they really happen. I find myself asking people often if something really happened or not. Things just pop into my head like memories quite often. Things that seem like, yeah that was real. I've even asked friends, you remember when blah blah... they'll be like uh no. and i'll realize it was one of my dreams!
Whatever those night terrors were when I was a kid I dont know. I can't compare them to what I go through now because I don't remember them. Also as a child I did wake up from nightmares which I did remember, I still remember quite a few of them now. That was different than the night terrors.
Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:16 AM
Once the phone rang and I held my hand up to my ear saying hello over and over even while the phone kept ringing. I was under 10 when that happened.
and when I was about 15 my mom brough the phone to me while I was napping. Apparently I acknowledged her and took the phone. I woke up to the sound of a dial tone.
Plenty of times people have come in to talk to me and I've responded. Plenty of other times people have come in to talk to me and I couldn't respond, but could hear them and tried to talk. I've even thought I was thrashing my arms or legs in attempt to get them to realize I was talking. I actually think I'm moving sometimes, but people will tell me I wasn't.
This whole narcolepsy thing is so weird!
Posted 05 July 2009 - 10:15 PM
What I want to know now is the chances of my 2 kids having it. Normally, I'd think the chances would be quite slim, just barely above the national average. However, my daughter has had many very odd sleep moments that everyone who knows her well has commented on all by themselves (prior to my diagnosis). And my 4-year-old son has night terrors (textbook ones too, so I'm sure that's what they are). Luckily they're only about once every 6 months, and he doesn't show any other odd sleep symptoms.
So now I'm more concerned than I would've been otherwise.... The good news is that if they do indeed have N, at least they'll have knowledgeable and caring parents to identify it early on and BELIEVE THEM and understand them, etc.! They won't hear from their mom, "Are you on drugs?"