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Narcolepsy Emotional Sleep Disorder- Mismanaged Emotions

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KARMIC DICTIONARY: Past Life Causes of Present Life Disorders

Narcolepsy
(Emotional - Sleep Disorder - Mismanaged Emotions)

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Narcolepsy
In Narcolepsy, a chronic sleep disorder, a Soul seeking greater advancement, "burdens" themselves with "excessive and overwhelming daytime sleepiness, even after adequate nighttime sleep" to assist them in honoring their emotions.


Causes: Those who contract Narcolepsy are more advanced Souls who, over many lives, have had a track record of "inappropriately" handling their emotions.

Emotions are "energy in motion" which are sent by our Higher Selves, guides, etc to "compel" us to take action (which is how karma is administered in the universe). In the normal course of evolution, by "trial and error", a Soul refines their ability to handle their emotions and thereby becomes progressively better at dealing them.

Yet some Souls become stuck in "inappropriate" patterns of coping with "emotionally upsetting events" and so have "agreed" to the extreme solution of Narcolepsy to "break themselves out" of these patterns. These are the patterns (the "ego defenses" as described by John Bradshaw in his book "Homecoming"):

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Denial which manifests as thinking like...

("the upsetting event is not really happening to me")


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Repression which manifests as thinking like...

("the upsetting event really never happened in the first place")


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Dissociation which manifests as thinking like...

("was there an upsetting event? I cannot seem to remember one")


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Projection which manifests as thinking like...

("the upsetting event is happening to anyone else but me")


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Minimizing which manifests as thinking like...

("the upsetting event happened but it is no big deal

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Hmmm...Cool, did you get this on Wikipedia?

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I am sick of the ignorance and demeaning attitudes that exist towards Narcolepsy. It is websites like this that lead people to misconceptions that negatively affect the way Narcoleptics are viewed by society.

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Hey! Hold it RIGHT THERE! what do you mean "sites like these"? First of all, There is nothing at all wrong with this Forum and Second This Forum DOES NOT in anyway show the Negative or Bad Side of Narcolepsy its just a Forum to share other peoples experiences with having Narcolepsy. If you don't like this Forum, Don't come back.

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Oh, And one more thing... I do not believe everything I see on Wikipedia.

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There is always going to be misconceptions and negative viewpoints about narcolepsy. It's that way with anything. I guess the more important message to take from this is how critical our role is in portraying the real story. In the end, what's more credible--nonsense from Buddhist metaphysical philosophy (or worse: SNL/comedy central) or the real McCoy?

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Sites like this... Narcolepsy Network, the only organization which stands up for PWNs?!!! :rolleyes:

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jenny and posters,

I totally appreciate how you feel. While I don't fully subscribe to it, I believe all points of view are important.

Everyone that replied to this post has narcolepsy. I think it's possible YOU might have the misconception about narcolepsy. I know first hand that the people who responded know exactly what it is to them.

We can agree...

we can disagree...

Respect for differing opinions needs to be applied ...please.

Wikipedia? The person that contributed the definition may also be the same person that penned the definition for "Star Track".

It can be a little crazy to accept wikipedia as the gospel...that would make no sense at all. It CAN be a good place to start a dialog though.

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Oh...and about your "sites like this" comment?

I'm not offended by your critisism...I actually LOVE counterpoints of view.

I'm offended by the thought that there are other sites like ours!

We are the one and only Narcolepsy Network...

Accept no substitutes, people. Accept no substitutes.

B)

:)

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I agree with most of the re-post, but not all of it. It sounds like it was obviously written by someone without narcolepsy though.

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Dear Jenny:

We could easily have deleted your messages since the first contained advertising (links to a commercial site offering "sessions" to heal one's past lives, which brings into question the real purpose for your post), and the second is unnecessarily derogatory, but doing so would be inconsistent with our policy to respect the views and belief systems of each of our participants.

You may or may not wish to explore the solid medical evidence that exists to support the classification of narcolepsy as a medical disorder. You may present your views from a personal perspective and discuss why you reject alternative views. However, if you wish to continue participating in this forum, you may not undermine its purpose by attempting to invalidate the views of others or the mission of Narcolepsy Network.

NN Admin

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Sites like this... Narcolepsy Network, the only organization which stands up for PWNs?!!! :rolleyes:

Amen.

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I'm not sure if I missed something before the very first post was edited...but I believe the "sites like this" was referring to the website this article came from...not directed at the NN site...

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Well, this may or may not be the best thread to be my 2nd post on the forum, but hey, gotta start somewhere right?

I am a believer in Buddism, as well as other forms of Eastern Philosophy. In many years of personal study and instruction through college, I have never seen anything like what is written in the first post here portraying Buddhist philosophy or Karma in traditionally accepted writings. Teachings from the Dalai Lama himself are very different from what is listed here.

I only felt compelled to post here because we all understand the misconceptions of our illness with people who are unfamiliar; it seems we wouldn't want to continue ignorances or misconceptions of spiritual beliefs either and when I was reading that, even from a purely educational perspective, I thought it just didn't sound like traditional beliefs (some off-shoot or otherwise, maybe?).

PS--I grew up Southern Baptist, so it was my own journey to learn about other belief systems in a search to understand those who were not like me and my own ignorances. Little did I know, that would later include Narcolepsy and Ankylosing Spondylitis...I am no longer ignorant to disabilities as well. ;)

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Well, this may or may not be the best thread to be my 2nd post on the forum, but hey, gotta start somewhere right?

I am a believer in Buddism, as well as other forms of Eastern Philosophy. In many years of personal study and instruction through college, I have never seen anything like what is written in the first post here portraying Buddhist philosophy or Karma in traditionally accepted writings. Teachings from the Dalai Lama himself are very different from what is listed here.

I only felt compelled to post here because we all understand the misconceptions of our illness with people who are unfamiliar; it seems we wouldn't want to continue ignorances or misconceptions of spiritual beliefs either and when I was reading that, even from a purely educational perspective, I thought it just didn't sound like traditional beliefs (some off-shoot or otherwise, maybe?).

PS--I grew up Southern Baptist, so it was my own journey to learn about other belief systems in a search to understand those who were not like me and my own ignorances. Little did I know, that would later include Narcolepsy and Ankylosing Spondylitis...I am no longer ignorant to disabilities as well. ;)

You have Ankylosing Spondylitis too? Well, not sure if I have it, but my mom is diagnosed with it and even at 19 I have a lot of joint trouble including the stiffness and pain. Could be a variety of things but the AS seems most likely since it is in the family. I have never been tested for it though.

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I don't know about all of you, and I can agree to disagree, but this article is disgusting. And I also think Jenny was refering to the site the article came from as demeaning Narcoleptics.

Am I to believe that my N is a punishment for the fact that in a nutshell, I am an ancient screw-up?

I am sorry, but looking to science, religion, or the "evrything happens for a reason", or any other healthy and objective view of this disorder is HEALTHY, not being irresponsible.

Blaming yourself for having this diagnosis is nothing short of sadistic and maybe I'm the one being closed minded but I don't see how you can move forward and achieve happiness and the ability to cope with N by saying, "Well, maybe this'll teach me."

By the way, I'm willing to bet the person who wrote this article does not have N.

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You know what's funny, a psychic once told my mom that I have a very old soul :lol:.

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Yeah, the post was pointing out a site...I probably could have figured that out if I would have read a little closer. There is SOOO much bad information out there. I wonder if the community could support a forum on links to bad information about N and C.

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I wonder if the community could support a forum on links to bad information about N and C.

Why? To depress us more? :P I wouldn't want to give those sites the satisfaction of receiving hits.

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You have Ankylosing Spondylitis too? Well, not sure if I have it, but my mom is diagnosed with it and even at 19 I have a lot of joint trouble including the stiffness and pain. Could be a variety of things but the AS seems most likely since it is in the family. I have never been tested for it though.

Hey Toph4er,

Sorry I haven't replied sooner! If your mom has AS and you have even some symptoms, please see a doc. You can just get a physical and get bloodwork including sed rate (although those of us w/full blown AS do not hold much stock in sed rate), ANA, and HLA-B27 (the genetic marker for AS).

Unfortunately, AS is known to be hereditary, and even more unforutnately, more men have it than women, even though it is thought to be under diagnosed in women as the symptoms can be different.

AS isn't a death sentence any more than Narcolepsy, but it can be progressive. I don't know how advanced your mom's AS is or how she is treated for it, but left untreated, it can cause fusion of the spine as well as peripheral joints and there are a host of other illnesses that can occur, possibly regardless of treatment, as many of us have eye disease and other diseases even though our AS is treated.

A good source of info is spondylitis.org. I would hate to see you not get treatment now and end up not being able to move your back or turn your head, etc.

BTW, I don't know what type of music you follow, but I am a child of the 80s and grew up on Motley Crue (still love them, guilty pleasure I guess). Well Mick Mars of that group has a very advanced case. He has even said he didn't necessarily treat it like he should have when he was younger, he has had both hips replaced and hardly has any ability to move his spine or chest. Chest fusion is also a symptom and can cause lung issues...the chest is my biggest complaint just because I feel like I cannot breath when it is flaring up.

K, getting off my soap box now. :P Knowing what my son and I have been through (and will go through w/AS), I just try to stress to anyone who might be facing that type of illness to see a doc. Being in pain stinks, but being in pain and losing the ability to use your joints stinks or see stinks worse! At least w/my narcolepsy I sleep through a lot of my pain. ;)

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Yea...I have very stiff joints, horrid posture (I could never make it in the military for that reason alone!), joint pain, especially in my back, but pain everywhere none-the-less. My mom was actually just shy of an AS diagnosis, just a marker or two off but it's the best fit. Unfortunately they won't treat her for it but she is doing good, some bad mornings when it's hot out, but good none-the-less (aside from the pains, stiffness, etc...).

Odd that that could be considered "good"...oh well, we can't all be perfect

Chris"Toph4er"

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I do think that Jenny was trying to point out that there are sites like "this" (Karmic Dictionary) that exist out there.

However, I put about as much stock in this as I do those "Click on this button to find out who your secret admirer is" graphics that pop up as spam advertising!

KARMIC DICTIONARY: Past Life Causes of Present Life Disorders

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You're all gonna hate me, but I believe that there is truth in everything (even lies and misconceptions are rooted in truth). With an open mind, I can see how some symptoms of Narcolepsy can be controlled without medications.

Many years ago I wrestled with terrors and waking dreams. (I think I went in more detail in other posts so I'll keep this short). After becoming lucid, I could finally determine the difference and as a result I have never had a prolonged hypnagogic hallucination since.

BUT -- Two nights ago, I starting to have one -- the moment I starting seeing this huge yellowish ghosting of a medevil knight with lance on a horse barrelling down on me in my smallish bedroom, my brain went "uh, wait, what's up with that?!?" and within a perceived micro-second I knew the drill and immediately, the "film real" turned off!!! This actaully kept me "honest" -- I *still* have them, but I subconsciously switch them off so routinely that I barely remember it happening anymore.

So, the truth embedded here is that, yes, I believe that some symptoms can be overcome (to a point).

Another case in point -- my last appointment with my neuro a couple of months ago: We both like golf (and I know he was baiting me -- he's very mild mannered and reserved), so we got to talking about previous rounds we had played and some great shots we had pulled off and he started getting yippity and bouncy and smiling and raising his voice and I followed -- pretty quickly I "piffed" and immediately subconsciously put my emotions in check to avoid it happening again. So again, (to a point) I had control.

"piffs" -- a micro-sleep intrusive enough to make me lose track of my thoughts and surroundings but subtle enough that even a trained observer may not even notice. (credits for creation of yet another obscure english word, my loving wife B) )

Ok, enough -- I think you all get my point :D

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